Dalla homepage: [...] vogliamo provare ad indovinare quale possa essere stata la prima frase palindroma in assoluto, pronunciata nel Paradiso Terrestre (non è in ebraico):
5 1'1 4.
Madam, I'm Adam
Buon pomeriggio a tutti! :D
P.S. palindromate, gente, palindromate con le frasi più celebri tratte dai film, dalle canzoni, dai romanzi...
pare rap
presa da un film non mi ricordo più quale.
CIAO
Come palindromo, ai lati d'Italia pare antico quanto l'Italia stessa...
Vorrei però citare anche Latal, terzino della repubblica ceka che è nato palindromo...
Risalendo alle orgini della sua famiglia...
Ancor più indietro nel tempo, arriviamo a Trilussa: amò ridere di Roma
Ciao
questa pagina la conoscerete tutti...
http://members.aol.com/gulfhigh2/words5.html
PALINDROMES
This section is limited to single-word palindromes only. I appreciate contributions to this page, but I am not including sentences or phrases which are palindromes, since there are other websites which list large numbers of them. Much of this section was contributed by Dan Tilque and Stuart Kidd.
TATTARRATTAT is the longest palindrome in the OED2, which calls it a nonce word. The OED2 shows a single use in 1922 by James Joyce in Ulysses: "I knew his tattarrattat at the door."
KINNIKINNIK is the longest palindrome in W3. The OED2 shows these variant spellings: kinnikinnic, kinnikinnik, killegenico, kanickanick, kanikanik, killickinnick, kin(n)ikin(n)ick, -kineck, -kennic, kinnakinnec. Audubon L. Bakewell IV reports the word is usually spelled kinnikinnick. The OED2 defines the term as "a mixture used by North American Indians as a substitute for tobacco, or for mixing with it..." or "any of the various plants used for this, as the Silky Cornel, Cornus sericea, Red-osier Dogwood, Cornus stolonifera, and esp. Bearberry, Arctostaphylos Uva-ursi...." The word is derived from an Algonquin word meaning "mixture."
DETARTRATED is listed by Guinness, where it is described as "a contrived chemical term." However, the word appears in several Internet pages on Concord grape juice and even once or twice on apple juice, including the page http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/hort/faculty/pool/herbbarber/herbgage3. htm which has this paragraph:
Concord contains potassium salts commonly called tartrates that won't filter or centrifuge out. Must be allowed to settle out by gravity - minimum of 6 weeks, before it's detartrated and ready to use. Otherwise will have sediment in the bottom of the bottle of juice and the jelly will be a little grainy.
Detartrated is said to have been coined by Dmitri Borgmann.
DETANNATED appears in a work on plant extracts published in 1892. It shows two detannated concoctions, detannated elixir of calisaya bark and detannated elixir of cinchona. The text can be found at http://chili.rt66.com/hrbmoore/ManualsOther/ElixForm.txt According to the Palindromicon, "detannated tincture of cinchona" appears in the 8th revision of the Pharmacopoeia of the U. S.
The longest palindromic taxons are AFGOIOGFA (a genus of hymenopterans) and ALLENELLA (a species name for a moth, Oecophoridae Bibarrambla allenella as well as a type of mollusk and a hymenopteran [Susan Thorpe].
The longest palindromic genus-species combination is ORIZABUS SUBAZIRO (a species of scarab beetle). Other palindromic genus-species combinations are AHA HA (a sphecid) and XELA ALEX (a species of syrphid fly).
Palindromic place names include KANAKANAK (Alaska), KINIKINIK (Alberta), NEUQUEN (a river, province, and city in Argentina), and WASSAMASSAW Road (near Summerville, South Carolina). The northernmost palindrome is QAANAAQ (the administrative capital of Northern Greenland).
GLENELG is one of the most common palindromic geographic names worldwide. The original is a village in Scotland. There's also a town in Maryland, a suburb of Adelaide, South Australia, a village in Nova Scotia, and a township in Ontario. Because there was a Lord Glenelg (the only one with that name) who was the British Colonial Secretary in the 1830s, the name is on various other features, such as streets and rivers, in Australia and New Zealand. At Glenelg High School in Maryland, the yearbook is the Palindrome.
AKASAKA is a district in Chuo, Tokyo [Joseph Hernandez].
The Finnish word SAIPPUAKIVIKAUPPIAS (a soapstone seller) is the longest known palindrome in any language according to the Guinness Book of World Records. It is claimed that two other Finnish palindromes are SAIPPUAKUPPINIPPUKAUPPIAS (soap cup trader) and SOLUTOMAATTIMITTAAMOTULOS (the result from a measurement laboratory for tomatoes) although technically the latter is a compound of four words. The Swedish word PORTUGALRALLARLAGUTROP (22 letters) is listed in Guinness, Swedish 1989 edition, but is not found in dictionaries.
According to Maarten van Muijen, the longest palindrome in Dutch is PARTERRESERRETRAP, which is translated "stairs from the main floor to a glass-covered terrace."
However, a reader of this page provided a longer Dutch palindrome, KOORTSMEETSYSTEEMSTROOK, which she translates as "fever measure system strip."
Miroslav Sedivy writes, "There is one excellent Czech (also Slovak) palindrome unique by its usage: TAHAT (even vertically symmetrical). It means 'pull' in sense of pulling a door to open it. So if you see it on a transparent sticker on a glass door (and I've seen many such doors in Czechoslovakia), it's interesting to see people pulling doors from both sides..."
Common everyday English palindromes (including a few very common abbreviations) are A, AHA, BB, BIB, BOB, BOOB, BUB, CIVIC, DAD, DEED, DEIFIED, DENNED, DEWED, DID, DUD, DVD, EKE, ERE, EVE, EWE, EYE, GAG, GIG, HAH, HUH, I, KAYAK, KOOK, LEVEL, MA’AM, MADAM, MOM, MUM, NOON, NUN, PAP, PCP, PEEP, PEP, PIP, POOP, POP, PULL-UP, PUP, PUT-UP, RACECAR, RADAR, REDDER, REFER, REPAPER, REVIVER, ROTATOR, ROTOR, SAGAS, SEES, SEXES, SHAHS, SIS, SOLOS, SOS, STATS, TAT, TENET, TIT, TNT, TOT, TOOT, TUT, TUT-TUT, WOW, and ZZZ.
Common personal names include ADA, ANNA, ASA, AVA, BOB, CEC (for Cecil), ELLE, EVE, HANNAH, LIL, NAN, OTTO, VIV, and VYV.
REDIVIDER is the name of a Canadian band. The word does not appear in the OED2 and an Internet search in March 2000 failed to find a single use of the word, except for its appearance in lists of palindromes or as the name of the band.
RELEVELER is the name of a rock band. However, the word is not found in the OED2 and does not appear to exist on the Internet except as the name of the rock band or as an example of a palindrome.
DELEVELED is used in fantasy role playing games to indicate that a character has lost a level. Several usages with this meaning can be found on the Internet.
Long coined palindromes which do not appear in dictionaries and for which no usages have been found in Web searches include DEGARAGED, DEROTATORED, DEROTORED, DESUFFUSED, REGARAGER, REROTATORER, REROTORER, and RESUFFUSER.
The Hebrew alphabet has three palindromic letter names: MEM, NUN, and WAW. A variant spelling of waw is VAV and a variant spelling of another letter name, teth, is TET.
KRK is a Croatian island [Juozas Rimas].
SOS by ABBA was a hit recording with a palindromic title and artist. Palindromic album titles include Ole ELO by the Electric Light Orchestra, LIVE EVIL by Black Sabbath and by Miles Davis, EVIL LIVE by The Misfits, UFO TOFU by Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, AJA by Steely Dan, and AOXOMOXOA by the Grateful Dead. AHA is a Norwegian pop group.
Palindromic drug names include XANAX, RAXAR, LEXXEL, LOZOL, and MERREM [Dennis Miller].
YREKA BAKERY is a famous palindrome, the name of an actual bakery in Yreka, California, which closed in the early 1960s. There is now a deli with the same name. The location of the original bakery is now occupied by an art gallery named yrellaGallery. An Internet search reveals the existence of an album titled Yreka Bakery by a band called Pep Squad. Mark D. Lew wrote in 2001, "About four years ago, on a road trip up I-5, I made a point of stopping in Yreka to look for the famous deli. It was Sunday evening, so it was closed, but I can attest that it does indeed exist. On Hwy 24, between Walnut Creek and Oakland (where I live), there is a building with 'Elite Tile' displayed in large letters, easily visible from the freeway." Dan Tilque provides the name of a refiner in El Dorado, Arkansas, LION OIL.
In Swedish, NATURRUTAN ("nature square") is the title of a nature TV program. And a somewhat contrived palindrome in Swedish is PORTUGALRALLARLAGUTROP ("Portugal"=the country, "rallarlag"=a team of navies, "utrop"=exclamation, outcry) [Fredrik Viklund].
LON NOL (1913-1985) was a general and political leader in Cambodia.
LEON NOEL was born on Christmas Eve in 1908 and became a child celebrity in his hometown of Valparaiso, Indiana. He was included in Robert L. Ripley's Ripley's Believe It or Not. Noel lived most of his life in St. Petersburg, Fla. He died in Largo, Fla., on Christmas Day 1999.
RAMON LLULL (fl. AD 1300) was a Catalan mystic and poet whose writings helped to develop the Romance Catalan language and widely influenced Neoplatonic mysticism throughout medieval and 17th-century Europe. He is also called Raymond Lully.
GLYCYLGLYCYLGLYCYLGLYCINE has a 19-letter internal palindrome (from the first to the last C).
More palindromes follow:
AA rough scoriaceous lava. (W3)
ABABA a genus of beetles
ADINIDA a group of protozoans belonging to the order Dinoflagellata. (W3)
AEAEA the Island of Dawn in Homer's Odyssey
AETEA a marine Bryozoan
AFOFA a Portuguese dance (Funk & Wagnall's New Standard Dictionary of the English Language, 1941)
AIBOHPHOBIA the fear of palindromes
AIDEMEDIA an Hawaiian finch
AILIA and AINIA genera of fish
AITIA plural of aition, a tale devised to explain the origin of a religious observance. (W3)
ALLAALLA Hausa (from Rex Gooch, Word Ways)
ALLENELLA a genus of molluscs
ALULA the bastard wing on a bird. (MWCD10)
ARAGARA a genus of flies
ARARA a genus of birds
ARRAARRA US Indian tribe (from Rex Gooch, Word Ways)
ARRAWARRA a town in coastal New South Wales, Australia (Cambridge Dictionary of Australian Places, Word Ways)
BACAB one of 4 Mayan brother gods that hold up the sky. (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1991)
BEEB informal term for the BBC. (OED2)
BURGGRUB the name of three villages in Bavaria (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
CAMMAC copper halfpenny in use in Ireland in the early 19th century (The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia, 1911)
CILDLIC old form of 'childlike' (An Anglo-Saxon Dictionary, Word Ways)
CINENIC related to cinene, a terpene derived from cineol. (OED2)
DEVOVED archaic word meaning devoted or dedicated. (W3)
ELLEMELLE a small community southwest of Liege in Belgium (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
ESSSSE old spelling of "ashes" in the sense "dust of the ground" (Hence used to express man's mortal constitution) (OED)
EVITATIVE a grammatical case, expressing what is to be feared and avoided
FINNIF slang term for a five dollar bill. (OED2)
GIPSY’S PIG the hedgehog. (OED2)
GNIPPING given to fault-finding (English Dialect Dictionary]
GOOG Australian slang for egg. (W3)
HADEDAH, HADADAH type of ibis. (W3, OED2)
HAGIGAH particular Jewish sacrifices (W3)
HALALAH var. of halala, a unit of currency in Saudi Arabia (= 1/100 riyal). (W3)
HAZIZAH a term connected with the rite of total immersion (Encyclopedia Judaica, 1972)
HAQIQAH esoteric truth that transcends human and theological limitations (Encyclopedia of Islam)
IGIGI a group of heavenly spirits under the god Anu in Babylonian religion. (W3)
ILLIBILLI a town in the Sudan (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
JILLIJ the name of a lighthouse in Tunisia (Official Standard Names Gazetteer, Word Ways)
KAZAK Turkic people of central Asia. (W3)
LEHAHEL one of eight seraphim in the cabala (A Dictionary of Angels, Word Ways)
LEMEL metal filings. (W3)
LIA FAIL stone on which the ancient kings of Ireland were crowned (W2)
LYSYL the acid radical of lysine. (W3)
MALAYALAM Dravidian language spoken in SW India. (MWCD10)
MARRAM a type of beach grass. (MWCD10)
MINIM 1/60 of a fluid dram. (W3)
MURDRUM secret murder. (W3)
NAAN a round flat leavened bread of the Indian subcontinent.(MWCD10)
NAURUAN inhabitant of Nauru, a Pacific island nation. (W3)
NIKIN a very soft animal. (OED2)
NIRURIN a constituent of the tropical plant Phyllanthus niruri (Dictionary of Natural Products, Word Ways)
NISIN an antibiotic produced by a bacterium of the genus Streptomyces (W3)
NORURON the chemical C13H22N20. (Dictionary of Chemical Names and Symbols, Word Ways)
OGOPOGO monster supposedly living in Lake Okanagan in British Columbia. (OED2)
OO a Hawaiian honey eater. (W3)
OOLOOPOOLOO alternative name of Karanja, an aboriginal language of Queensland, Australia
OOROOROO a creek in New South Wales, Australia OTTETTO octet, a musical composition for 8 parts. (W2)
OTTOOTTO 8-8 time in music (from Rex Gooch, Word Ways)
OXO containing oxygen (MWCD10)
PARAPARAP a town in the state of Victoria, Australia (Australia Map Series Gazetteer, Word Ways)
PEEPPEEP (OED)
PEEWEEP lapwing or greenfinch (W3)
QAZAQ var of Kazak (see above) (W3)
RACK CAR a railroad car having end racks but no sides. (W3)
REIFIER person who regards an abstract idea as a material or concrete thing. (American Heritage Dictionary)
ROOD-DOOR door in the rood screen of a medieval church. (Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913)
ROTAVATOR trademark for a rotory tiller in the United Kingdom. (OED2)
SANANANAS pale-yellow West Indian crabs (Dictionary of Jamaican English, Word Ways)
SAWBWAS hereditary rulers of a Sahn state of Burma (W3)
SEMITIMES an undefined term in W2 but logically meaning 'half times'.
SENONES a Celtic people living in northern Italy (W2)
SHALALAHS a former Indian village on the Umpqua River in western Oregon (Handbook of American Indians North of Mexico, Word Ways)
SIDIS a genus of beetles
SIMIDIMIS Jamaican dances (Dictionary of Jamaican English, Word Ways)
SOBOSOBOS African black nightshades (Hamlyn Encyclopaedic World Dictionary, Word Ways)
SPACECAPS a type of collectible trading disks, e.g. Star Trek
SUDUS a genus of weevils
SULLUS a genus of fish
TEBET the 4th month of the Jewish calendar (MWCD10)
TOOTTOOT (OED)
TUMUT a town in Australia, on the Murrumbidgee River
TUNG NUT seed of the tung tree. (Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1980)
UBURUBU a town in Nigeria (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
URAHARU a town in the Kagoshima region, Japan (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
UREMERU a town in Colombia (Encarta World Atlas, Word Ways)
UWOLOWU surpreme god of the Akposo in Togo (Guide to the Gods, Word Ways)
VELLEV a town in Denmark (Times Atlas of the World, Word Ways)
XITIX a name for L-ascorbic acid (Dictionary of Chemical Names and Symbols, Word Ways)
XOLOX a locality in central Mexico (Official Guide to Railways, Word Ways)
YARAY Puerto Rican fan palms (W3)
YUCUCUY a populated place in Mexico (Official Standard Names Gazetteer, Word Ways)
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REVERSIBLE WORDS
Some words which, when spelled backwards, form other words are: AMAROID/DIORAMA, ANIMAL/LAMINA, DEIFIER/REIFIED, DELIVER/REVILED, DENIER/REINED, DENIES/SEINED, DENNIS/SINNED, DESSERT/TRESSED, DESSERTS/STRESSED, DIAPER/REPAID, DRAWER/REWARD, ECITON/NOTICE, ELIDES/SEDILE, ENAMOR/ROMANE, GATEMAN/NAMETAG, LEPER/REPEL, LIVED/DEVIL, LOOTER/RETOOL, MULLAHS/SHALLUM, PACER/RECAP, PARTS/STRAP, PILFER/REFLIP, PUPILS/SLIPUP, REDIPS/SPIDER, REDRAW/WARDER, REFLOW/WOLFER, REKNIT/TINKER, REKNITS/STINKER, RECAPS/SPACER, REVOTES/SETOVER, SATRAPS/SPARTAS, SKUA/AUKS, SLEETS/STEELS, SLOOPS/SPOOLS, SNOOPS/SPOONS, SPORTS/STROPS, STRAW/WARTS [Pierre Abbat, Randal May, Chris Hendricks, Rudy Wang, Stuart Kidd].
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Non sola Roma ma anche in provincia:
Tivoli, I lov'it
Vita vissuta.
Mio capo: "Vedi di organizzare per lunedì i ritiri..."
Io lo blocco esclamando: "E' palindroma!"
Mi ha chiesto che cosa c'era nel mio bicchiere al posto dell'acqua... :o
Citazione di: "valentino"Vita vissuta.
Mio capo: "Vedi di organizzare per lunedì i ritiri..."
Io lo blocco esclamando: "E' palindroma!"
Mi ha chiesto che cosa c'era nel mio bicchiere al posto dell'acqua... :o
E lo vedo lodevole il tuo stupore!!
Ho visto che Wiseman ha citato Latal - e considerando il Menem in homepage - ... potremmo continuare con qualche cognome famoso... ne avete?
Io intanto ci metto:
Salas (beh, lo conoscerete...)
Senes (veniva a scuola con me, lo so che non ci crederete ma il suo telefono era 641146!!!)
Seles (la Monica del tennis)
Citazione di: "hombre"Ho visto che Wiseman ha citato Latal - e considerando il Menem in homepage - ... potremmo continuare con qualche cognome famoso... ne avete?
Su due piedi mi viene in mente un cognome nostrano:
Oddo. Va bè...
Troppa grazia sant'Antonio! :evil: Ci sono sere che non si vede uno straccio di moderatore in giro, e stanotte addirittura due! :D :D :D
Anche mia nonna ha il numero di telefono palindromo! :wink:
A me viene in mente solo un antipodo palindromo, cioè (Monica) Vitti... :roll:
Ci penso andando dalla nonna di cui sopra.
Marta ABBA
Ciao
Ida
C'è l'attrice americana Daryl HANNAH
Famosa per aver interpretato "Splash, una sirena a Manhattan" con Tom Hanks, e diretta da Ron Howard.
:lol: :D :lol: :D
Ciauz!
Dai tempi del Liceo ricordo
Roma tibi subito motibus ibit amor
e l'indovinello
in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni (che mi pare si riferisse ai giorni,
che iniziano di notte e sono consumati dal fuoco solare)
in greco
Nipson anomemata me monan opsin (Lava insieme i peccati e il viso) :D :D
Natalino OTTO
Ciao
Ida
Buongiorno! :D
Sapete cosa rispose Eva, alla gentile presentazione di Adamo "Madam, I'm Adam"? :o
Eve, man, am Eve! :lol:
Uno dei "palindromi" italiani più noti è senza dubbio il famoso critico letterario e storico della cultura italiana Alberto ASOR ROSA.
Ciao,
Paolo
Carmelo Bene
la rockstar Iggy Pop
e, per finire, il trombettista Nini Rosso
Buon pomeriggio a tutte/i :D
Citazione di: "valentino"Anche mia nonna ha il numero di telefono palindromo! :wink:
A me viene in mente solo un antipodo palindromo, cioè (Monica) Vitti... :roll:
Ci penso andando dalla nonna di cui sopra.
E come non citare la ben nota Raffaella
Carrà?
Allora aggiungerei:
Nilla PIZZI
Lucio DALLA
Ciao,
Paolo
Altri tre:
Il difensore Marco LANNA ex Roma e Sampdoria
Il suo omonimo del Chievo Salvatore LANNA
L'ispettrice RIZZI della SE.
Ciao,
Paolo
P.S.
E con questo messaggio tocco quota 1000!!!!
Presumo che anche la mia firma sia moooooooooooooolto vecchia...
p.s:avete visto quella di "Super Gigio"??!?
Chissà se il contadino pensava ai palindromi, quando ERAN I MESI DI SEMINARE...............
O il capostazione, quando guardava I TRENI INERTI...
O il gatto, quando I TOPI NON AVEVANO NIPOTI..., molto meno pregevole... (lo sanno tutti..)
Mia sorella insiste nel dire che è di sua proprietà... :-? :-? :-?
Un quartetto di cognomi antipodi palindromi, per concludere il pomeriggio:
Federica Moro
Licia Colò
Dino Risi
Carlo Emilio Gadda
Un dialogo palindromo di J. A. Lindon (da Penrose Tiles to Trapdoor Ciphers di M. Gardner - non ancora tradotto in Italia¹...)
In Eden, I
ADAM: Madam ---
EVE: Oh, who ---
ADAM: (No girl-rig on!)
EVE: Heh?
ADAM: Madam, I'm Adam.
EVE: Name of a foeman?
ADAM: O stone me! Not so.
EVE: Mad! A maid I am, Adam.
ADAM: Pure, eh? Called Ella? Cheer up.
EVE: Eve, not Ella. Brat star ballet on? Eve.
ADAM: Eve?
EVE: Eve, maiden name. Both sad in Eden I dash to be manned, I am Eve.
ADAM: Eve. Drowsy baby's word. Eve.
EVE: Mad! A gift. I fit fig, Adam...
ADAM: On, hostess? Ugh! Gussets? Oh, no!
EVE: ???
ADAM: Sleepy baby peels.
EVE: Wolf! Low!
ADAM: Wolf? Fun, so snuff "low".
EVE: Yes, low! Yes, nil on, no linsey-wolsey!
ADAM: Madam, I'm Adam.
Named under a ban.
A bared, nude man ---
Aha!
EVE: Mad Adam!
ADAM: Mmmmmmmm!
EVE: Mmmmmmmm!
ADAM: Even in Eden I win Eden in Eve.
EVE: Pure woman in Eden, I win Eden in --- a mower-up!
ADAM: Mmmmmmmm!
EVE: Adam, I'm Ada!
ADAM: Miss, I'm Cain, a monomaniac. Miss, I'm ---
EVE: No, son.
ADAM: Name's Abel, a male based man.
EVE: Name not so, O Stone man!
ADAM: Mad as it is it is Adam.
EVE: I'm a Madam Adam, am I?
ADAM: Eve?
EVE: Eve mine. Denied, a jade in Eden, I'm Eve.
ADAM: No fig. (Nor wrong if on!)
EVE: ???
ADAM: A daffodil I doff, Ada.
EVE: 'Tis a --- what --- ah, was it ---
ADAM: Sun ever! A bare Venus...
EVE: 'S pity! So red, ungirt, rig-nude, rosy tips...
ADAM: Eve is a sieve!
EVE: Tut-tut!
ADAM: Now a see-saw on...
EVE: On me? (O poem!) No!
ADAM: Aha!
EVE: I won't! O not now, I ---
ADAM: Aha!
EVE: NO! O God, I --- (Fit if I do?) Go on.
ADAM: Hrrrrrrh!
EVE: Wow! Ow!
ADAM: Sores? (Alas, Eros!)
EVE: No, none. My hero! More hymen, on, on...
ADAM: Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh!
EVE: Revolting is error. Resign it, lover.
ADAM: No, not now I won't. On, on...
EVE: Rise, sir.
ADAM: Dewy dale, cinema-game... Nice lady wed?
EVE: Marry an Ayr ram!
ADAM: Rail on, O liar!
EVE: Live devil!
ADAM: Diamond-eyed no-maid!
BOTH: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
¹ E ci sto facendo un pensierino io....
George SOROS
SOROS non ha fatto molta fatica a trovare tutta la ricchezza (oro) contenuta nel suo cognome. E' la prima volta che entro nel forum. Ho rotto il MURO/FORUM.
benvenuto/a!
Roberto o Roberta ? :D
Un altro antipodo palindromo è il noto imprenditore e padrone dell Florentia Viola Diego DELLA VALLE
Ciao,
Paolo
Viva la Florentiaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
non cominciamo a parlar di calcio perchè poi ti ritroverai con un osso che è ROTTO DA DOTTORE
Il Mitico Geometra Filini ......... Gigi REDER
cognome palindromo .... nome antipodo palindromo... :wink: